The Further Up, Further In Podcast
The Further Up, Further In Podcast exists to call the American Church out of the shallows, and into the deeper waters of the faith, and to invite each listener to pursue a deeper walk with Christ.
Episodes

Sep 7, 2025
Sep 7, 2025
43 min
This episode overviews the hallmarks of Modernism and Postmodernism and how the rise of these things helps to explain the retreat of the American Church from the life of the mind. It also overviews some of internal reasons why the church retreated from the life of the mind, since there are and were reasons why this happened that can't be laid at the feet of any outside force or factor.

Aug 31, 2025
Aug 31, 2025
30 min
In this second part of our two week overview of our intellectual history, we examine some of the things that led contemporary western culture away from the central tenets of Christian theism, and at the initially optimistic and later more pessimistic ideas that emerged. As we introduce the concepts of Modernism and Postmodernism, we are preparing to look more closely next week at the retreat of the American Church from the life of the mind.

Aug 24, 2025
Aug 24, 2025
30 min
As we continue to discuss embracing the life of the mind as part of our pursuit of a deeper Christian life, we survey our intellectual history in an effort to understand some of the things that have brought us where we are. In this first part of a two week overview of that history, we look at some of our classical and Christian roots.

Aug 17, 2025
Aug 17, 2025
31 min
Episode 3 begins our exploration of the first of our four big themes - embrace the life of the mind, the Christian faith is rational - as we discuss the importance of both knowing God and loving God, and of embracing both mind and heart in our walk with God.

Aug 10, 2025
Aug 10, 2025
26 min
The waters of the Christian faith are deep, and yet all too often, the American church is content to remain in the shallows. In this episode - the second part of the two-part introduction to the podcast - we talk a little bit about the shallowness of the church and reiterate the invitation to go deeper.

Aug 10, 2025
Aug 10, 2025
23 min
Do you sometimes think that there must be more to the Christian faith, that the American church seems pretty shallow? Do you want to pursue a deeper walk with Christ? This inaugural episode of The Further Up, Further In Podcast will introduce you to the vision of the podcast and begin to answer your most pressing question, "Will this be worth your time?" This is part one of the two-part podcast introduction.





